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Anna: Hello, space fans. Welcome to Astronomy

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Daily, your source for the latest news from

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across the cosmos. I'm Anna.

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Avery: And I'm Avery. Great to have you with us

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today. We've got a really exciting lineup of

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storeys covering everything from upcoming

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missions to mysterious discoveries.

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Anna: That's right. We're starting with some big

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news from NASA. Artemis 2 is entering

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its final preparations for the first crewed

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mission beyond low Earth orbit in over

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50 years. The rollout to the launch pad

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happens this weekend. Weekend.

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Avery: Very exciting. We'll also be talking about a

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serious cybersecurity breach at the European

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Space Agency. China's ambitious satellite

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launches to kick off 2026 and the

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surprising discovery about Jupiter's

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atmosphere.

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Anna: Plus, we have an intriguing cosmic mystery.

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Astronomers have found a massive bar of iron

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hidden m inside the famous Ring Nebula. And

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we'll wrap up with a fascinating look back at

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the Apollo 14 moon trees and what

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happened to them.

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Avery: Lots to cover. So let's get started.

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Anna: All right, Avery, let's dive into our top

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storey.

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NASA is entering the final stages of

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preparation for Artemis ii and the excitement

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is really building.

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Avery: This is huge, Anna. We're talking about the

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first crewed mission beyond low Earth orbit

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in over 50 years. The launch window opens

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as early as February 6, though it could

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extend into April depending on final

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Anna: And this weekend is a major milestone. Right,

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the rollout to the launch pad.

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Avery: Exactly. Targeted for no earlier than this

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Saturday, January 17th. The Space Launch

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System rocket and Orion spacecraft will make

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that slow journey from the Vehicle Assembly

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Building to launch pad 39B at Ah,

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Kennedy Space Centre. It's about 6.5

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kilometres or 4 miles, and it'll take up

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to 12 hours on the Crawler transporter.

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Anna: That's the same launch pad used for Apollo,

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isn't it?

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Avery: It is. Launch pad 39B has quite

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a history. Now, the Artemis 2 crew consists

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of four astronauts. NASA's Reid Wiseman as

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Commander, Victor Glover as pilot,

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Christina Koch as mission specialist, and

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Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen, also a

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mission specialist.

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Anna: This mission is essentially a dress rehearsal

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for the actual lunar landing, correct?

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Avery: Right. Artemis 2 will be a 10 day

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circumlunar flight. They'll loop around the

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moon without landing and return to Earth.

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It's building on the success of Artemis I

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uncrewed mission. And paving the way for

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Artemis 3, currently scheduled for 2028,

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which will put humans back on the lunar

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surface for the first time since Apollo 17

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Anna: I know they've been working around the clock

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to get everything ready. Have there been any

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challenges?

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Avery: There have Been some. Back in December,

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during a countdown demonstration, test

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engineers detected a problem with a valve

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associated with the Orion capsule's hatch

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pressurisation system. They replaced that

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valve on January 5th and successfully

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completed a pressure test. They also resolved

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a leak in the ground support hardware that

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pressurises Orion with oxygen gas.

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Anna: So what happens once it's at the launch pad?

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Avery: Ground crews will connect all the electrical

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lines, fuel control system ducts, cryogenic

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propellant feeds and other ground support

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equipment. Then they'll power up all the

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rocket's integrated systems for the first

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Anna: And then comes the wet dress rehearsal.

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Avery: Scheduled for the end of January. That's when

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they'll load the rocket with about 2.65

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million litres. That's 700,000 gallons

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of cryogenic fuel, conduct a launch

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countdown and then safely unload it. They'll

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run through several countdown holds and

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recycles, just like they would during an

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Anna: Dazzle learned a lot from Artemis I's wet

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dress rehearsal, didn't they?

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Avery: They did. Particularly around loading liquid

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hydrogen propellant. They experienced some

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challenges with that, so they'll be

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monitoring very careful. They're also

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watching how much nitrogen gas accumulates

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between the Orion crew module and the launch

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abort system using recently updated

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Anna: And if all goes well with the.

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Avery: Wet dress rehearsal, then NASA's mission

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management team will hold a flight readiness

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review to assess whether all systems are

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truly ready. Only then will they commit to a

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firm launch date. And of course, the Artemis

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II astronauts will conduct a final walk down

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at the pad, which will be quite a media

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Anna: The launch windows are interesting too,

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aren't they? It's not every day in February

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Avery: That's right. Due to the complex orbital

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mechanics of Earth and the moon, there's a

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pattern of about a, uh, week of launch

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opportunities followed by three weeks without

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any. NASA has published the specific dates

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between February and April when launches are

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Anna: This is such an exciting time.

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50 years since we've sent humans beyond.

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Avery: Low Earth orbit and it's setting the stage

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for sustainable lunar exploration. Crew

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safety remains NASA's top priority every step

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of the way. As ah, Lori Glaze, Acting

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associate administrator for NASA's

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Directorate, emphasised in their recent

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Anna: Moving on to some concerning news. Avery.

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The European Space Agency has suffered a

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significant cyberattack.

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Avery: Unfortunately, yes. This happened just after

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Christmas on Boxing Day, actually. A hacker

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operating under the codename 888 dumped

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over 200 gigabytes of ESA data onto

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dark web forums.

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Anna: What kind of data are we talking about?

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Avery: The leaked information included proprietary

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software, authorization credentials, access

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tokens and sensitive project documentation.

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ESA initially downplayed the breach, saying

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its impact was limited to servers with

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Anna: But there was more to the storey.

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Avery: There was. Just a week later, a cybercrime

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group known as Scattered Lapsis Hunters

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claimed they stole another 500 gigabytes of

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data, saying the security hole was still

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unpatched. This batch reportedly included

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operational procedures, spacecraft and

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mission details, subsystems documentation

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contractors like SpaceX, Airbus Group and

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Anna: That's pretty serious. How did ESA

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Avery: They've launched a criminal investigation and

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are fully cooperating with authorities. In a

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press briefing on January 8, Eric Morel

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de Westgaver, ESA's director of

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European Legal and International Matters,

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said the authorities will manage

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communication about the case and handle the

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criminal proceedings.

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Anna: Is this kind of attack common against space

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agencies?

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Avery: More common than you think. Cybersecurity

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researcher Clemence Poirier from the Centre

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for security studies at ETH Zurich

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told Space.com that during her research she

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frequently encounters email credentials of

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ESA employees and even other space

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agencies being sold on dark web forums.

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Anna: How are these credentials being obtained?

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Avery: Poirier suggests it may be due to a lack of

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cyber hygiene from ESA staff. Threat

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actors may have used infostealer malware,

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which harvests data stored in web browsers.

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Things like credentials, session cookies,

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multi factor authentication data and even

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saved credit cards.

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Anna: That's pretty insidious.

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Avery: It is. These infostealers are particularly

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dangerous because they can evade detection by

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antivirus software. They often spread through

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malicious ads on popular websites or infected

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Anna: And NASA faces similar threats.

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Avery: According to sources familiar with space

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cyber risk environment, NASA is actually a

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frequent victim. Vulnerabilities are being

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disclosed almost every day via the

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crowdsourced cybersecurity platform bugcrowd.

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Anna: Even though the recent ESA leaks didn't seem

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highly critical, there are still concerns,

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right?

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Avery: Absolutely. Poyer warned that this data could

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be combined with information from future

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breaches to reveal strategic information that

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could enable another cyberattack against the

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space system. We're not there yet, but it's

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an important consideration.

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Anna: And vulnerabilities might exist with third

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party providers, too.

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Avery: Exactly. The security holes could be on the

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side of Issa's software providers or other

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third parties they purchase services from. Or

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ESA's own networks might be hiding unpatched

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vulnerabilities that hackers could exploit.

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Anna: What's the bottom line here, as Poyer.

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Avery: Put it, data leaks and breaches against space

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agencies are common. It can happen to each

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agency and will happen to each agency in the

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future. Given the rise of cyber attacks

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against the space sector, it's a reality that

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all space organisations need to take very

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Anna: Let's shift gears to some space activity from

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China. They've kicked off 2026 with a couple

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Avery: They really have, anna. Uh. On January

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13th, China launched two Long March rockets

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representing a strong start to what's

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expected to be a very busy year for their

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Anna: What were they launching?

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Avery: The first mission carried the Yaogon

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5001 remote sensing satellite and the

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second deployed a series of GU satellites

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into low Earth orbit. Both launches were

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successful and marked the beginning of what

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China hopes will be a ah record breaking

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Anna: Tell us about the Yaogon 50 01. That sounds

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Avery: It is. This satellite was launched aboard a

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its unusual orbit. Unlike typical

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Yaogon 50 01's orbit is designed to

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maximise its ability to observe Earth from

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unique angles, providing broader and more

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detailed views of the planet.

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Anna: What will it be used for?

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Avery: It's part of China's growing portfolio of

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remote sensing technology, which has

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applications ranging from agricultural

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monitoring to, let's be honest, military

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surveillance. As China develops and deploys

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more of these satellites, they're positioning

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Anna: And it'll also help with natural disaster

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Avery: Absolutely. It'll contribute to monitoring

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Anna: What about the Guawang satellites?

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telecommunications, Earth observation and

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scientific research. By placing these

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satellites in low Earth orbit, China will be

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able to provide enhanced communication

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services, including high speed data

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transmission over large regions.

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Avery: No. It'll improve their global connectivity,

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particularly in areas with limited access to

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terrestrial communication networks and beyond

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role in supporting China's future space

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exploration goals.

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Anna: How so?

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Avery: By providing real time communication and data

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transfer capabilities, these satellites will

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be instrumental in supporting future missions

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to the Moon and Mars. It's all part of

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China's integrated approach to building space

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infrastructure.

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Anna: This seems like quite an ambitious start to

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Avery: It really is. According to the China

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Aerospace Corporation These missions

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underscore China's growing capabilities and

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commitment to expanding their space

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exploration infrastructure. And this is just

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the beginning. They have many more launches

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planned throughout 2026.

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Anna: It's fascinating to see how competitive the

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space sector has become with multiple nations

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ramping up their capabilities.

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Avery: Indeed, we're in a new era of space activity.

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anymore. The combination of national

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programmes and commercial ventures is really

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accelerating progress.

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Anna: All right, Avery, let's head out to Jupiter

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for our next storey. Scientists have made a

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surprising discovery about the gas giant's

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Avery: This is really interesting, Anna.

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Anna: Uh.

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Avery: A new study published in the Planetary

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Science Journal reveals that Jupiter holds

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roughly 1.5 times more oxygen than

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our sun.

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Anna: That's way more than expected, isn't it?

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Avery: It is. For decades, studies have disagreed

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about how much oxygen Jupiter contains.

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Some recent studies even suggested it was

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much less than the sun. So this finding

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significantly reshapes our understanding of

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the planet's composition.

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Anna: Why is oxygen content so important?

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Avery: Oxygen is one of the most abundant elements

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in the universe, and its presence on Jupiter

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has big implications. As Jiheng Yang, a

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postdoctoral researcher at the University of

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Chicago and the study's lead author,

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explained, the precise quantity of oxygen

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offers important clues about how Jupiter

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formed and how our solar system evolved.

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Anna: Because oxygen is key to water formation.

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Avery: Exactly. Understanding its presence and

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distribution could help researchers learn

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more about the conditions that allow for the

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formation of habitable planets, both in our

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solar system and beyond.

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Anna: Jupiter's atmosphere is famously difficult to

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study.

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Avery: Though that's putting it mildly. The thick

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clouds covering the planet the Great Red

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Spot, which is a storm twice the size of

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Earth, and other violent weather patterns

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have kept scientists from getting a clear

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view of what lies beneath the surface.

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Anna: Previous missions couldn't measure deep into

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the atmosphere.

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Avery: The Galileo spacecraft couldn't. But more

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recently, the Juno spacecraft has provided

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valuable data on the upper layers, including

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measurements of ammonia, methane and carbon

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monoxide. Still, building an accurate model

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has been challenging.

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Anna: What made this new model different?

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Avery: The researchers integrated both chemistry and

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hydrodynamics, the study of how fluids move.

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As Jihong Yang explained, you really need

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both. Chemistry alone doesn't include water

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droplets or cloud behaviour, while

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hydrodynamics alone oversimplifies the

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chemistry. Bringing them together allows for

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much more accurate predictions.

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Anna: And they discovered something else surprising

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too, didn't they?

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Avery: They did. The study revealed that the

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movement of gases within Jupiter's atmosphere

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is far slower than previously believed. The

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diffusion of molecules is 35 to 40

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times slower than the standard assumption.

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Anna: What does that mean?

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Avery: Practically, as Jihengyang put it, it would

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take a single molecule several weeks to move

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through one layer of the atmosphere, rather

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than hours. This slower diffusion could have

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significant implications for how heat and

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chemical elements are transported within the

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planet. And it may affect how clouds form and

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dissipate.

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Anna: This must challenge a lot of existing

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assumptions about gas giant atmospheres.

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Avery: It does. The discovery adds another layer of

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complexity to our understanding and shows

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that even well studied planets like Jupiter

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still have prizes in store. This is the most

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comprehensive atmospheric model of Jupiter to

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date, but clearly there's still more to

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learn.

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Anna: We'll be sure to follow up this one with

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interest.

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Avery: Anna.

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Uh, our next storey is about a cosmic mystery

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hiding in plain sight, or rather hiding in

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one of the night sky's most famous objects.

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Anna: Oh, this is the Ring Nebula discovery. Right.

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I was reading about this. It's fascinating,

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it really is.

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Avery: Astronomers have discovered a mysterious bar

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shaped cloud of iron inside the iconic Ring

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Nebula. And it went completely unnoticed for

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decades, despite this being one of the most

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studied objects in space.

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Anna: How did they finally spot it?

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Avery: A European team led by researchers at

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University College London and Cardiff

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University used a new instrument called

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weave, the WHT

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Enhanced Area Velocity Explorer,

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installed on the William Herschel Telescope.

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The key was that WEAVE allowed them to obtain

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spectra across the entire face of the

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nebula at all optical wavelengths

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simultaneously.

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Anna: So it wasn't about getting a sharper image,

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but analysing the light differently.

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Avery: Exactly. Dr. Roger Wesson, the

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lead author, explained that by painting a

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spectrum continuously across the whole

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nebula, they could create images at any

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wavelength and determine the chemical

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composition at any position. And when

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they processed the data, this iron bar just

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popped out, clear as anything.

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Anna: How big is this thing?

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Avery: The bar's length is roughly 500

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times that of Pluto's orbit around the Sun.

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And get this. The mass of iron atoms

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is comparable to the mass of Mars.

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Anna: That's colossal. And it fits inside the

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Ring Nebula's inner region.

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Avery: It does. It's shaped like a narrow strip that

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fits neatly within the nebula's elliptical

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inner layer. The part that's familiar from

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all those beautiful images we've seen from

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telescopes including the James Webb Space

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Telescope.

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Anna: So what is the Ring Nebula exactly? For our

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listeners who might not know.

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Avery: The Ring Nebula, also known as Messier

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57, was first identified in

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1779 by French astronomer

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Charles Messier. It's what's called a

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planetary nebula, a shell of gas created

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when a star reaches the end of its fuel

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burning life and releases its outer layers

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into space. In several billion years,

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our own sun is expected to undergo a, ah,

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similar transformation.

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Anna: And this iron bar, do we know how it formed?

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Avery: That's the mystery. The scientists honestly

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don't know yet. Professor Albert Zylstra from

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the University of Manchester noted that they

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selected the Ring Nebula as an early target

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because it's bright, well studied and ideal

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for testing the instrument. But then they

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found something entirely unexpected.

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Anna: What are the theories?

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Avery: There are two main scenarios. First, the

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iron bar might reveal something new about how

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the nebula was ejected by the parent star,

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perhaps showing an uneven or directional

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outflow in the process. Second, and

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more intriguingly, the iron might be an arc

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of plasma resulting from the vaporisation of

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a destroyed planet.

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Anna: A planet that got too close to.

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Avery: The dying star, possibly as the

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star expanded into a red giant late in its

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life. Any rocky planet that wandered too

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close could have been torn apart by extreme

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heat and radiation. Living behind this metal

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rich cloud, trapped inside the nebula,

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that would be quite.

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Anna: A dramatic end for a planet. Do they think

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this iron bar is unique?

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Avery: Dr. Wesson doesn't think so. He said it would

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be very surprising if the Ring Nebula's iron

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bar is unique. Weave is conducting surveys

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of many more ionised nebulae across the

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northern Milky Way and they hope to discover

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more examples of this phenomenon which would

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help them understand where the iron comes

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from.

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Anna: It's amazing that such a familiar object

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still had this hidden.

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Avery: Amen, um, to that. Professor Janet Drew

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also at ucl cautioned that they need to know

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more particularly if any other chemical

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elements coexist with the iron as uh, that

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would help determine the right model to

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pursue. They're planning follow up studies

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using WEAVE at higher spectral resolution.

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Anna: Just goes to show that even the most studied

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objects can surprise us when we look at them

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in new ways.

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Avery: Amen um, to that.

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Anna: For our final storey. Today we're taking a

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look back at a fascinating piece of Apollo

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history. Avery, tell us about the Moon

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trees.

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Avery: This is such a cool storey. Anna. Um, when

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Apollo 14 returned to Earth in 1971,

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it brought back something unexpected.

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Hundreds of tree seeds that had orbited the

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Moon.

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Anna: These were part of a scientific experiment.

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Avery: It started as a small experiment led by

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astronaut Stuart Roosa, who was a former

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U.S. forest Service smokejumper. Before

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becoming an astronaut, he carried several

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hundred seeds in his personal

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loblolly pine, sycamore, sweetgum,

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redwood and Douglas fir.

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Anna: And there was an accident with these seeds,

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wasn't there?

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Avery: There was. As NASA recounts, the seed

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bags burst open during the decontamination

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procedures after the spacecraft returned to

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Earth. The seeds scattered around the chamber

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and were exposed to vacuum. And everyone

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thought they might not be.

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Anna: Viable, but they decided to try planting them

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anyway.

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Avery: They did, to test whether the seeds had

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survived. And the results were extraordinary.

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Many sprouted and grew just like normal

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trees, showing no visible damage from their

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cosmic journey.

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Anna: How many trees eventually grew?

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Avery: Over 400 seedlings grew into mature

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trees. Some were planted beside earth

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grown control trees to compare their

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development. And remarkably, after years of

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observation, no differences were found

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between the space flown seeds and their earth

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bound counterparts.

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Anna: When were these trees distributed?

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Avery: M the distribution coincided with the U.S.

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bicentennial celebrations of 1975

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and 1976. Most were given

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to state forest reorganisations to be planted

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as part of the nation's bicentennial

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celebration. The trees were only sent to

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countries and states where they could

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actually be grown and thrive.

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Anna: And some went to pretty notable places,

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right?

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Avery: Oh, yes, A, uh, loblolly pine was planted

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at the White House. Trees were sent to

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Brazil, Switzerland and even presented to the

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Emperor of Japan. Each tree served as

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a living connection between space exploration

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and Earth's natural environment.

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Anna: There were telegrams that accompanied the

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trees.

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Avery: NASA sent telegrams highlighting their

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symbolic importance. The message read that

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the tree is a living symbol of our

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spectacular human and scientific

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achievements. And the fitting tribute to our

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national space programme, which has brought

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out the best of American patriotism,

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dedication and determination to succeed.

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Anna: That really captures the spirit of that era.

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Avery: It does. It was this beautiful blend of

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scientific curiosity and national pride

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during the Apollo years. Each moon tree

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represented not just a triumph of space

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exploration, but a reminder that the pursuit

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of knowledge can be rooted quite literally

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in the natural world.

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Anna: Many of these trees are still standing today.

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Avery: They are. Their plaques may be faded, but

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their symbolism remains intact. NASA

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continues to track and document the locations

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of surviving moon trees. And there's even a

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modern continuation of this project.

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Anna: The Moon Tree 2.0 project.

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Avery: Exactly. It uses seeds taken aboard the

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Orion spacecraft during the Artemis 1

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mission. So this initiative bridges past and

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future, connecting the pioneering Apollo

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missions to the next generation of lunar

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explorers.

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Anna: I love that these trees serve as both

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scientific curiosities and powerful

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symbols.

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Avery: They really do. From forests across the

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United States to royal gardens overseas,

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these trees stand as silent witnesses to one

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of the most extraordinary chapters in human

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history. Their storey rooted in science.

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Resilience and wonder remains a testament

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to what happens when curiosity literally

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takes flight beyond Earth's atmosphere.

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Anna: Well, that wraps up today's episode of

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Astronomy Daily. We covered quite a journey

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today from NASA's preparations to return

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humans to lunar orbit to cybersecurity

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security challenges in the space sector,

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China's expanding satellite network,

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surprising discoveries about Jupiter, a

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mysterious iron bar hidden in a famous

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nebula, and the enduring legacy of the

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moon trees.

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Avery: It's episodes like this that really show the

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breadth of space science and exploration.

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Whether it's cutting edge missions,

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astronomical discoveries, or looking back at

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historic achievements, there's always

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something fascinating happening in space.

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Anna: Thanks so much for joining us today. If you

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enjoyed the show, please subscribe and leave

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us a review. It really helps other space

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enthusiasts find us.

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Avery: And if you have questions or topics you'd

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like us to cover, reach out to us on social

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media. We love hearing from our listeners.

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Anna: Until next time, keep looking up

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Clear skies everyone.
